Taking on the menaces of the internet #7: Hypocrisy and whining against Foxiify (IN PROGRESS)

before i go back to riffing on the gaming community i thought i'd defend a notable Pokemon LPer: FOXIIFY!

You already know what kiwifar.ms is and I just described Foxiify.

Original thread here: https://kiwifar.ms/threads/foxiify.8561/

#1: this reminds me that i still have to watch Growing Around, havent seen or read an episode of it yet
her fame isnt non-existant and shes NOT a bitch
she does have talent
#2: yeah thanks for compiling so much of Foxiify greatness in a thread OP :D
#3: You would use the voice of an angel to mock someone else?
#4: you spelled "beautiful" wrong, nice going
#6: Wtf Are you even saying?
#7: are we looking at the same twitter?
#8: where did you get SJW from?
#10: she has no ego.
#11: yeah its news to me too and I agree on the talent part
#12: just saying it doesnt make it so.
#14: not even going to touch this, its yet another "SHES LIKE CHRIS CHAN" post
#15: so are your posts.
#16: when you're as talented as Foxiify yes you can :P
#22: how does she mock fans? and unless you mean she's a pop diva which I doubt she isnt a diva.
#23: she looks young but not THAT young, maybe 19 at least.
#24: using bases =/= tracing
#27: Not everyone can draw well even with bases
#35: kinda right
#38: it sure is! :P
#39: I agree :D
#40: Yeah i dont hear what you hear.
#41: Nitpicking
#44: Pointless screenshot
#45, #46: shes pretty calm considering the false accusations to her.
#49: it CAN happen, I've copied some pictures that peple thought i traced.
#58: more like because she shut you down
#61: Harhar.
#62: didnt you say that already?
#64: if youre not going to say anything original dont post, besides she doesn't have a baby face.
#68: no comment surprisingly
#83: Its  not your program, she just didn't trace.
#88: They dont all overlap.
#94: OF COURSE the body shape is gonna be the same, its from the same artist.
#95: The hair is kinda like a bulb and the floatation device is the same color as the shell.
#102: ....what did you expect? honestly...
#105: A streotypical 14 yr. old girl can be anything.
#106: LOL her comment
#119: That's true.
#121: it looks like one with them open because it IS one.
#127: commentary time! Foxiify is normal, Simplicity111 is bold and I'm italicized!
"A lot of people in this thread seem to think I'm egotistical. That's funny, considering I think I'm shit at everything I do. "

Proof of this? It seems like you pulled that out of thin air to get sympathy.

See below:

"I've even said in a few videos "I don't know why you watch me, my commentary is so bad"."

Alright, before I'm willing to believe you on this, where do you say that? Tell me. Also you claim not to be using different bases and bitch about other users constantly.

You were stalking her this whole time and never once heard it? wow...

"Dude, this forum is fucking cancer lmfao. It's just a bunch of hate threads for a bunch of different people lmfao"

It's called "lolcows". Some people do certain stupid shit on the internet, such as Chris-Chan, which is why they have threads here. They're fun to discuss. I'm surprised you've skipped over the shit in this thread that warrants you a thread here.

Thank you for proving her point :D

"Hi, person who, despite hating me, is stalking my twitter! Seems a bit odd, doesn't it? "

Again, lolcow material. By that logic you should stop stalking this site, but I don't really care, it's fun to see you squirm 

You guys stalked her first. 

"You say I act like a typical 14/15/16 year old. You've taken to posting hate on an internet forum. How are YOU any more mature?"

Not all of this is blind hate. We're DISCUSSING. You on the other hand are making a million tweets to your fans that lead to nowhere, like a butthurt 14/15/16 year old. Since you've done many stupid things like claim not to use bases (I don't care how bad you claim your art to be, you still denied it), and holding your "Growing Around" video to a high pedestal in the comments section (so don't deny it) by "intensifying" the hype for a series that has been proven to never be able to come out.

If a guy with a Pokemon icon thinks your Pokemon letsplays are bad, you really are bad, whether you say it or not. Please, counter these points, I'm curious. And no I'm not stalking, I only found out about this a few minutes ago when someone else posted. You on the other hand are, but like I said earlier I don't mind, it just makes you hypocritical 

she informed them about kiwifarms so the tweets have a point.
If its not coming out why are there animations for it hmm????
Which guy with a Pokemon icon?

#133: another commentary!

You can say I'm lurking, but in reality I'm just trying to counter your bullshit arguments. Besides most of these comments I already have screencapped. So let's start Part II.

Didn't you just say you were "bad at everything you did?" Now I see you were trying to do it to hide your ego.

OR she was just proud of that one thing at the time.
One post said "they hate you when they want to be you".
Really? I don't ever want to be a bitch who makes shitty letsplays and traced (borderline stolen) drawings, who is going to star in a show that will never succeed.

You didnt even describe her.
https://archive.today/IVVKD (full comment)

I'm not about to run head first into a thread full of people who hate my guts lmao. Let 'em hate. Not much I can do to stop them. Posting in that thread would literally just give them more ammo. But hey, the opening post has links to all my social media so hey, free publicity.  

You're giving us more ammo right now by making all those posts on Twitter. Clearly it's not that much better of an alternative.

It is because shes not on your home turf.

I do find it kind of ironic that they think I'm egotistical and that I act like I'm some kind of prodigy at everything I do. I actually think I'm shit at everything I do, and I've even said in a few videos "I don't know why anyone watches my videos. My commentary is terrible". 

Again, source needed.

SKIPPING...

I'm literally the farthest thing FROM egotistical, but haters gon' hate. If I wasn't able to handle the hate, I'd have quit youtube a week after starting it. xD

Well, I CAN say I relate there.

how??

I also love how one of her posts claim "mindless hate", when in reality @Twilight Sparkle has been giving her criticism to improve while she just shrugged it off. God damn.

I didnt see any.

#141: yeah a pointless discussion

#143: *laughs* 

#155: If she doesnt mind it then it can backfire on you.

#163: You JUST described a hate site.

#174: EXACTLY, it was 2 years ago.

#178: because people might be spamming her without telling anyone.

#200: fake or not, TRUTH!! *claps*

#212: again I dont hear it.

Taking on the menaces of the internet #6: Christopher Hart haters

Note: If you're wondering why ::dolphin noise:: keeps showing up, its because this was first posted on SBMania where cursing is filtered. but since you need an account to even view blogs i decided to copy it here.

Chris Hart is a well known manga and cartoon artist that sold millions of how to draw books world-wide.

Fnochrishart is a blog run by SJWs that exposes Chris for the "fraud" and "sexist" that he is. ( fnochrishart.tumblr.com )

"A blog dedicated to the inaccurate and artistically questionable "How to draw Manga" books by Christopher Hart; where sub par art, comical ignorance of anything that exists in actual manga, and infuriatingly bad art advice meet. Kawaii moe bishoujo ridiculousness will ensue."

I liked my description better 

First entry:
"I love when chris traces the final product to make his step by step instructions because it turns the book into a fun spot the difference game"

prove that he traced. Of course it's gonna be different, he's showing a first and last step.

Second:
"I broke out laughing at the part where they said future girl should be clothed with protective gear because of the harsh future, but that just means goggles, boots, and random shoulder pads."
I thought you were gonna criticize his art, not typical anime tropes and descriptions that don't even relate to the subject

OMG CHRIS DREW A ONE PIECE STYLED SAUSAGE WITH A 4KIDZ WATER GUN 

(Didn't make that up, that's one of their "criticisms" but with better grammar.)

Next:
http://41.media.tumblr.com/bdc80922a9f587aa245c383cab4e9805/tumblr_n17m7584bS1rzzf1co1_500.png
"While standing like this may be more “attractive”, i think I’ll just continue standing with my hands at my sides like a normal person."

Did you not read the description? He says that was a flirty pose.

Next:
"Women are basically jello anyway, just pose ‘em however"

What's wrong with using a variety of poses? Are you really bashing him because he won't draw the same pose and expression over and over?

This segment has no actual criticism, just not witty commentary about most of the poses.

"Nice try CH, everyone knows the only body type in manga is skinny with huge boobs."

This is an example. This one is dumb, moving on

"Looks like someone lost their dentures again"
Anime characters aren't usually shown with their teeth when shocked, though he could have left it black instead of coloring it in pink. Who cares?

And that's it, the rest of their content is the same shit over and over again... now for Kiwifarms

Kiwi farms is a hate site about making fun of people and unfortunately Chris Hart is one of these.  

https://kiwifar.ms/threads/chris-hart.773/

Wont do the whole thread since a lot of it is repeats and off topic stuff.

Not sure if anybody has heard of an artist known as Christopher Hart. For those who haven't he writes tonnes of ::dolphin noise::ty "how to draw manga" books and that ::dolphin noise:: really, really sells because weeaboos don't want to do art the hard way and just want an easy way to draw Naruto hurr.

if that was the case, why wouldnt they just look for how to draw Naruto tutorials online instead of buying Chris Hart's books?

Anyway, you might wonder why I've brought this man to your attention, well this is because he draws about 6 out of 200 pages in his books and his advice is just



nothing wrong with that, also the second link is broken.

Draw anatomy without studying it properly!? Who even writes a book on that? Anyway aside from his terrible advice and downright awful art there is his latent sexism that dominates his books.

I dont know maybe EVERYONE ELSE?? 
and of course Chris Hart whiners HAVE to accuse him of being a "sexist" because if they didnt, they would have no other arguments.

(insert More broken links here)

Then to top this all off is the fact that he created a Deviantart account to post art and tutorials. All fine and well until somebody calls him out on his sexism or critiques him; (URL's posted incase screencaps are too small to read)

I can't believe I never knew he had a deviantart! (NOTE: At the time I wrote this, I didn't.)


I see criticism, but none of the 9 points explain HOW that is. Id say he handled it well.

He doesn't have a deviantart account anymore because he was bombarded with critique by people and he kept calling them trolls. I can't understand how a publisher said yes to this ::dolphin noise::... And his ego is massive from it. To the point of swelling. 

His deviantart is still up, and people who criticize you but dont explain how CAN be trolls.

Mr Hart needs to realize the only reasons he's the "beselling how to draw manga artist!" are because any mention of the word manga has weeaboos lapping it up and it's a pretty ::dolphin noise::in' narrow category to be frank. I know of about 2 regular artists other than him who draw these books and they're Ben Krefta and Peter Gray. Thing is, unlike our friend Christopher these guys have improved over the years...show pictures from those other two guys then and tell us how that is.

and if that was the case every single manga artist would be popular but they're NOT.

It gets me how he can be so unprofessional but still manage to get professionally published.
A lot of his drawings seem like he did them on a whim and thought "I'll slap them in my newest how to book!" because the instructions, when followed never give the same results as they preach. It's like the blind leading the blind really. Criticism is the very fuel of art IMO and if he can't take it then he's just going to end up getting nowhere and making an ::dolphin noise:: of himself.

they gave the same results for me, the details were slightly different but they still looked the same. I saw nothing that suggests he can't take criticism.

If you really want to learn to draw, quit following step-by-step instructions, draw a lot of stuff, and develop your own style.
but then you won't learn from your mistakes, step-by-step shows you how to do it. that works for some people but not everyone.

I don't understand why it says "Chris Hart" on the cover and it's a bit of a scam that the primary audience will overlook the copyright info in the first few pages and see that there are multiple artist working on it instead of thinking that Chris drew everything in the ::dolphin noise:: book. It must be so discrediting to draw for that and just have his name slapped on it...

thats not his fault if people decide not to do further research.


Not even weeaboos desrve to be regressed like that. From personal experience it's depressing realizing for three or four years of my life which I spent trying to draw well were wasted because some artists made capital on a dopey kid who didn't know any better.

how is it "regression" when they maybe never knew how to draw before then?

Well apparently he thinks it's sexy since according to him you do not draw women fat or even mildly toned. Probably the males look relatively normal but the females are always stick figures.

not even going to touch this one.

That's what makes him a lolcow, he's a grown ::dolphin noise:: man who acts like an entitled little brat and encourages really bad artistic choices. There's no problem with learning from books, hell I think everybody refers to an art book every now and then but the problems come when the artist in the books starts preaching ::dolphin noise:: that impressionable kids will listen to.

I'm not seeing any proof. whining is NOT it.

Here's the best post in the thread (there are a few more good posts though), and fittingly it's the last post:

Honestly I feel like people go a little overboard in criticizing Hart. Yes he's a somewhat untalented hack, yes he has some dumb ideas about depicting women, yes he's petty, yes this and yes that, but there are tons of people like that in the world who have made more money and fame for doing less and having half the talent. His drawing books can give people some incorrect ideas about art, sure, but there are plenty of art books like that and anyone genuinely serious about being an artist/cartoonist will not religiously consume his media and his alone. They will learn proper techniques eventually anyway. Again, someone who is serious will consume how-to-draw materials a lot more voraciously than to stick to one specific author and thus learn a variety of things, good and bad, from Hart and from others. 
I used a few of his books growing up but guess what? I also studied other art books by all manner of artists and while my art isn't spectacular or professional quality, it's ::dolphin noise::ed decent and it's not as if I spent years trying to un-learn the horrible things Chris taught me. It's also worth pointing out he gives genuinely good advice for beginners, like the fact that even if you look at a horse from the side you will see the legs on the other side of its body regardless, and his use of action lines is actually really instructive and helpful. Stuff like that. Stuff that people wanna overlook just because hurr hurr he's a dum look at him try to draw mangos. I guess what I'm trying to say is while he's not good, he's not so outright bad either and I think people get a little carried away about it.
Sorry, I'm not trying to call out anyone in this thread and a lot of the criticisms are legitimate, I just thought I'd weigh in finally ^^;

THAT was better than anything i could have ever come up with.   i do NOT agree with the parts I didn't bolded but whatever.

Taking on the menaces of the internet #5: Clay Claymore (3rd times the charm....)

WARNING: TERRIBLE ARGUMENTS!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHnFt9iukJs

WOW, GOOD MUSIC!

....

that's the only praise I have, because the rest of this video SUCKS.

0:00 I think it'll say alot more about you than him.
0:20 If the episodes finds new ways of suck or sucks more than usual why not?
0:30-35 Criticism is obsession now :D good to know you're so obsessed with TheMysteriousMrEnter and AnimatedJames, oh and lets not forget 03bgood.
0:40 you know that's almost the kind of thing 03bgood would say... (the ISIS part)... yet everyone lets Clay Claymore go....
1:00 why not?
1:05 because people dont like TTG and want to watch people rip it apart, and in that regard TheMysteriousMrEnter is perfect
1:22 I see nothing wrong
1:41 those videos youre showing are about TROLLS, not CARTOONS
1:52 you prove you're just as ignorant as the TTG execs.
(He shows pictures of people he hates and they dont even look bad)
2:28 more like they refuce to address criticism
2:57 even if that was true about everybody, Mr. Enter's point still stands
3:08 how do you know he watched it on TV?
3:35 Unless your answer is "nothing" you guessed wrong.
3:55 you really think thats a good idea for an episode? also it exists to annoy people with crappy writing.
4:35 LAME!
4:44 except he actually knows what that means. apparently you don't if you're complaining about him using it.
5:15 he sure is! that's why he LOVED Sand Castles in the Sand right?
5:29 You probably only hate it because he does.
5:45 it seems more like you're insecure about the things others like.
5:55 No comment
6:00 See 5:29 (Also you get an Award for the lamest nickname for a cartoon ever!)
6:17 why did you REALLY make this video? to bitch about modern shows you dislike because someone you hate happens to like them? also it's on Disney XD not Disney Channel. you got on TheMysteriousMrEnter for using "Straw Man Fallacy" but you don't know what "hypocrisy" is!
(Havent seen much of the show, so I'll move on but not before saying that if you hate it, it can't be that bad.)
6:52, 6:58 see 4:35
7:15 that wasn't even RELEVANT.
7:49 you mean like yourself?
8:01 Please, listen to what he's saying and "SHUT THE FUCK UP!"
8:16 still haven't read much of it but I know it isn't as bad as you're saying.
also did you think that maybe the staff members are BUSY WITH OTHER THINGS?
8:42 see 4:35
9:00 not really since he probably didnt watch it on TV
9:26 what is there to enjoy? if you dont already get it, i did NOT enjoy it.
9:31 You should be the last person talking about someone not being funny.

Taking on the Menaces of the internet #4: Kiwifarms (Ecclytennysmithylove thread)

Original: https://kiwifar.ms/threads/ecclytennysmithylove.8251/

formatting will be the same as Ephrom Josine to make it easier.

OP (Original Poster): All I have to say is so what?
#2: How offensive it can be is a matter of degrees.
#3: you didn't know because she' s not an Enterbot.
#5: see above
#6: You gonna address her points right?
#7: she's right though
#8: http://mrenter.tumblr.com/post/123514727714/hi-mr-enter-big-fan-here-but-i-have-to-tell-you
#9: that rendered the whole thread pointless
#11: prove it
#12: Considering she's talking about cyber-bullying i dont think it was stupid actually
#15: those guys could be blowing things out of proportion
#16, #20: Arguments already pissed on by other people.
#22: HER account not yours.
#23: more like good reasons
#25: it can if it's that bad or went on too long, already ripped apart by #26.
#27: wow you did NOT read #26.
#30: You don't know that
#31: what jokes exactly? link us to scenes or scripts or quotes, SOMETHING.
#33: she's "mad" because they are not good
#35: what's wrong with liking Germans? (and its here that im reminded that I'm not German :(
#37: OMG THE EVIL ENTER HAS AN OPINION!

Taking on the menaces of the internet #3: Clay Claymore again

surprised this doesn't have more dislikes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO7SbABklGo

0:01 As long as its valid criticism I can live with it.
0:16 POINTLESS
0:29 because Mr. Enter doesn't call people names for not agreeing with him.
0:36 the only hypocrite is you.
0:52 Pointless, Mr. Enter is not like a SJW.
1:20 Did you forget what's in your own description?
"Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit."
1:28 he meant its not necessary.
1:45 you didn't listen.
1:58 "Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit."
gonna keep posting this until you get it
2:14 do research
2:20 "Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit."
2:46 "Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit."
2:58 How did you even COME UP with that? i'll still post this again:
"Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit."
3:11 He ADMITTED that
3:25 this is early in the show, that was one of his worst wishes at the time
3:50 still doesnt change what he said before.
4:11 *sigh* not again....
"Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit."
4:24 yeah and it's coming from you.
4:37 That wasn't necessary.
4:58 more like you'll "spare" us from you making yourself look like a fool any more than you already have. ALSO!:
"Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit."
5:20 I thought you said you would spare us from the rest?????
"Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit."
5:59 people who say he doesn't get jokes haven't watched enough of his videos.
6:04 "Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit."
6:09 You can research THAT but not everything else??
6:24 "Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit."
6:34 you more than make up for it with hypocrisy and idiocy.

Lets count how many times I had to copy and paste: "Sometimes a lamp is really just a lamp. Keep that in mind when you are overanalyzing shit." - this one here is not included

10 TIMES! HOLY SHIT!!

Taking on the menaces of the internet #2: BLACKB0ND

Introduction: BLACKB0ND is a generic Nintendo hater and PC elitist who actually expects people to listen to him even though he insults his viewers in each and every video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xV2CbgVIpgs

0:23 wow not even 30 seconds in and already you start off calling people "corporate slaves" not a good sign
0:35 so people who like Dynasty Warriors are corporate slaves?
0:55 he makes your head hurt because he's looking forward to Hyrule Warriors? just because you dont like Hyrule Warriors doesnt mean he can't
1:11 Hyrule Warriors isnt the only spinoff in the series, also games are allowed to try new things
1:28 this part is pointless
2:16 see why people dont listen to what you have to say? Because you're saying people are social rejects, losers and etc. for being excited for a GAME. do you know what a social reject is? or what a loser is for that matter?
2:46 just because someone hasnt finished a game doesnt mean he cant look forward to another one
2:57 Link to this? (no pun intended)
3:07 how do you know he doesnt complete his games? did you think maybe HE DOESNT HAVE TIME to be playing games so often? He's not a no-life "gamer" like you. also what's wrong with Gamefly or Rentbox?
3:28 the only fraud i see is you. you can say TheBlackBaron is a disgrace to the franchise but  you're a disgrace to PEOPLE.

The Worst Commentary Ever Made (Clay Claymore)

Introduction: Clay Claymore is a cyberbully who harasses cartoon fans including 03bgood, Mr. Enter, Benthelooney and more. surprised I didn't find out about him sooner, just knew about him less than a week ago.

thanks Ephrom Josine for inspiring me!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=280-XSm04lY

0:41 how does it sound "gay"? and how CAN a commentary sound "gay"?
-skipping Chris Chan references, theyre useless-
1:16 stop complaining about cartoon reviewers then.
1:41 you use media clips so you shouldnt be talking.
2:18 the Chris-chan joke HAS to be funny the 2nd time too!
2:40 THIS is the guy who got on Mr. Enter for complaning about stereotypes.
2:51 do research.
3:02 Cats CHASE mice, not run from them.
3:35 my thoughts on your shitty commentary
3:44 10 minutes left in your commentary.....
4:00 he only made TWO of them
4:45 that has nothing to do with the video
4:57 if 03bgood can't bring up Yokai Watch you can't bring up Pewdiepie, its irelevant.
5:03 03bgood isn't her son.
5:10 He was implying that the mother is on her period. also she said he won't see daylight for a month which can mean any horrifying thing.
6:04 Toby is being shown being bathed so its a little questionable, with all the edits they made to the dub you would think this scene would be cut or altered
7:27 PREACH! Clay Claymore's piece of shit wasnt funny from the start!
7:47 if you didnt cut him off you would know what he's talking about
8:44 the text at the bottom wasn't necessary, WE KNOW.
9:17 he can do whatever joke he wants to
9:55 my thoughts on your video too
10:23 he was talking over Nobi, that's all.
10:47 irrelevant
11:16 the only manchild i see is you
11:30 Do research
12:50 stupid joke
13:18 die over someone's commentary that YOU chose to WATCH?

and that's it.